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Moving from blind faith to conviction

Posted on 15 April 2010, 15:35

Birthdays are a good time to stop, pause, and figure out where we have been, where we are now, and where we are going.  On the occasion of my 73rd birthday recently, I took time out to discuss this with my Higher Self.  Below is a transcript of our discussion.  (MT = me, my lower self; HS = my Higher Self)

MT:  As you know, HS, I spend quite a bit of time thinking about, reading about, and writing about the evidence for an afterlife and what that afterlife is all about.  My friends keep telling me that I am too obsessed with the subject and that I should focus more on this life.  What do you think?

HS:  Well, Michael, my boy, if you were half your age and still very much involved with raising a family and working a full-time job, I might agree with them, although I would still encourage you to have an interest in the subject.  But since you are no longer working a full-time job or raising a family, what would you do with your time?

MT:  Thatís what I ask them, HS.  I guess I could take up golf and idle away my time by hitting little white balls into holes, or I could escape life by reading novels or watching fiction on television, or maybe I could go down to the seniorís center and play cribbage or lawn bowling with others my age.  I havenít been able to come up with any really meaningful activities to focus on.  Any suggestions?

HS:  You could do more volunteer work than you are doing now.

MT:  I know, but, as you know, I volunteered for hospice last year and even went through their training program, but they still havenít called me and have ignored my calls to them.

HS:  Thatís strange.  Any idea why?

MT:  Probably because I made the mistake of discussing my interest in afterlife matters with the instructor.  I didnít know it then, but it is now my understanding that this is more or less a taboo subject in hospice.  They donít want volunteers to be discussing afterlife issues with patients.  They want that left to the chaplains.

HS: Iím sure you see the reason for that.

MT:  Yes, who is to say the volunteer knows what he is talking about? He or she might be a hell and damnation type of person and really do a disservice to the dying person.  Of course, I donít think there are very many chaplains or ministers who are very effective when it comes to talking about life after death.  So it is a lose-lose situation.

HS:  I canít disagree with you there, but how do you know your interpretation of what comes after death is any more correct than the hell and damnation preachers?

MT: I donít know for certain, but it appeals to reason and can be reconciled with a just and loving creative intelligence rather than an angry, vindictive one.  And it just makes so much more sense than the humdrum heaven and horrific hell offered by orthodox religion.

HS:  So you think everything must make sense?

MT:  Well, not really, I donít think we can really make sense of God or comprehend God, but ruling out nonsense is another issue and so much of what orthodox religion offers just seems like nonsense that discourages people from believing. 

HS:  Refresh my memory.  What do you see as the biggest difference between what you believe and what is taught by orthodoxy?

MT:  First of all, orthodox religion holds that blind faith is all that is necessary.  All well and good for the Philistine who does not think deeply about such matters, but blind faith doesnít do it for most thinking people.  There is some pretty good evidence available to everyone which suggests that our consciousness survives bodily death.  That evidence can really help people move from blind faith to true faith, or conviction.  Once a person has that conviction, it is much easier for him or her to live a more spiritual and less materialistic life.

HS:  Most of that evidence has been around for some time and has been for the most part ignored.  Why do you think that is?

MT:  It was rejected by the churches because they saw some of it conflicting with established dogma and doctrine and it would have usurped their authority.  At the other extreme, the scientific fundamentalists rejected it because it couldnít be tested by hard science and conflicted with what they had come to see as natural law. 

HS:  I agree with you there, too. You said, ďfirst of all.Ē  What else?

MT:  Having a strong conviction that we live on in a larger life is just half the battle. Youíve got to be able to visualize the afterlife to some degree and realize that it is not that humdrum heaven and horrific hell taught by orthodoxy.  It is pretty difficult to look forward to spending eternity floating around on clouds, strumming a harp, and praising God 24/7, which is about all that orthodoxy offers.  To me, that is less appealing than extinction and nothingness.  As a result, even those who believe in an afterlife, fear death. 

HS:  What do you visualize?

MT:  There is an abundance of credible spirit testimony suggesting that we cross over pretty much as we are, that we build up a moral specific gravity by our actions and deeds in this life and that determines the plane, level, sphere, whatever you want to call it, that we end up in.  However, we go on evolving and progressing from there.  As Jesus said, there are ďmany mansionsĒ on that side.  In some ways our activities there are much the same as they are here.  The thought world is the real life and all we are experiencing here in the material realm is just an illusory life.

HS:  You mentioned Jesus.  What is your take on him?

MT:  I totally reject the atonement doctrine as one of those nonsensical and unjust things, and I donít know if Jesus is God, per se, because, as I said, I think God is beyond comprehension.  However, I do believe that Jesus was a highly evolved spirit who returned to earth to teach us or remind us that there is life after death.  This message has come through in countless spirit messages.  I see Jesus as the Chairman of the Board on the Other Side.  If not that, at least on the Board of Directors.

HS:  You know, Michael, I donít want to inflate your ego, but I do think you are closer to the truth than those orthodox preachers.  As you know, Iím not all that advanced myself, just a vibration above you, but from my standpoint it sure makes sense. But tell me, why not be content with what you think you know and let others discover it on their own?

MT: Thatís what I have been wrestling with, HS.  All I can say is that I feel impelled to share what I have found out with others. Iíd like to think that you or some spirit guides above you are urging me to write about it and share it with others.  I really believe that all the chaos and turmoil in the world today is a result of the failure of religion to offer the evidence for survival and to present an intelligent afterlife.  Many people say they believe, but they really only hope. And the most they can hope for is to be spend eternity singing ďAlleluia.Ē  Thatís not enough to deter them from striving to be one with their toys.  The bottom line is that materialism prevails and has now regressed to hedonism.

HS: So you are going to continue writing a blog and writing articles for various publications?

MT:  Unless you or someone higher tells me to cease and desist.

HS:  Itís not like you have that big of an audience, Michael. 

MT:  Arenít you the one who told me that seeds are being planted by many others and that those seeds take time to root and sprout?  I think you also said something about little streams all coming together in one big lake.

HS:  I was just testing you, Michael.  Go for it.


Comments

I would like to personally contact you.
Do you have a private email address?
By the way,I see that you will be 80 April 2018.
That was a huge surprize,I imagined you to be about 50.I turn 85 in December.

David Hall, Tue 7 Nov, 03:37

Mike,

You are right on target - love your comment!

Keep trying with Hospice - you just have to make one understanding contact, and be ready to provide them with some easy to understand information (such as this article, or your recent article for the local newspaper) - “step by step” ...

Speaking of “step by step” - for me accepting the “afterlife” is the next significant step (for most people) - understanding “God” is quite a few steps further down the line ...

Richard, Sat 29 May, 22:28

A remarkable dialogue bearing great truth.

Boyce, Wed 5 May, 03:19

Keep up the good work Michael. There are people listening. For some reason (I have no idea why),I have always been interested in the afterlife and afterlife communictaion. I am a actor by trade but I also write plays - my latest play is based on the afterlife and I got a lot of information from your old gia blog site. Keep planting those seeds.

Laurie.

Laurie Rea, Fri 30 Apr, 00:55

Love it! Someone else is looking into my mirror.

Charlie S

Charlie Seaman, Thu 22 Apr, 20:04

Hi, Mike, hope you had a good B-Day!
A question: will you put back on-line your old archive? There were many great articles there!
BUON COMPLEANNO (HAPPY B-DAY!) from Italy!
Claudio
http://www.ampupage.it

Claudio (From Italy), Thu 22 Apr, 17:15

Nice one, Michael. Welcome to White Crow. You’re right about the seeds taking time to root and sprout. Could be forever.  And happy 73rd birthday, even though I’m a little late. My LS and HS have had conversations like this, only more frustrated and not so eloquent.
Go for it!

Keith P, England., Tue 20 Apr, 19:27

Splendid article Mike which I fully agree with but knowing is even stronger than believing and I have that Knowledge to support you - as you know.
Will write more later.  Regards   Tom H

Tom & Ann Harrison, Mon 19 Apr, 23:31

It is pretty difficult to look forward to spending eternity floating around on clouds, strumming a harp, and praising God 24/7, which is about all that orthodoxy offers.  To me, that is less appealing than extinction and nothingness.

completely agree.

Surprised that there are, as yet, no comments on your interesting blog

jan, Mon 19 Apr, 18:24

HEY MIKE,  RIGHT ON!!!!!!!! LOVED THE COMMENTS,  KEN

KEN BUEHLER, Sat 17 Apr, 22:53

As an outsider looking in at your conversation, I don’t see an issue.  You could be just as right in the search for truth.  God boggles my mind and it has always been a difficult subject to comprehend.  Of course, I could take the least path of resistance, shut down, and go with blind faith.  I know it is easier to go this way, but I never liked making it easy because it gets in the way of discovery.  Narrow minded thinking is boring to me.  So, I say, go for it Mike and best wishes.

Steve

Steve Sparks, Fri 16 Apr, 20:27


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