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Death or Transcendence as viewed by Dr. Michael Grosso

Posted on 26 November 2018, 10:00

“Brainwashed by mainstream scientistic materialism, we feel constrained by their ideas of what is possible,” Michael Grosso states in his 1985 book The Final Choice: Death or Transcendence, recently republished by White Crow Books.  “Tied to constricted worldviews, we submit to the status quo, however soul-deadening.  Faced with more idealistic possibilities, we respond with passive skepticism.”

Materialism, he goes on, neglects the unseen dimension and serves to keep us distracted and unaware of the Transcendent.

Now an independent scholar, writer, and painter, Grosso, (below) a resident of Charlottesville, Virginia, received his Ph.D. in philosophy from Columbia University in 1971.  He has taught humanities and philosophy at Marymount Manhattan College, City University of New York, and New Jersey City University and is affiliated with the Division of Perceptual Studies at the University of Virginia. He has authored five other books, including The Man Who Could Fly and Wings of Ecstasy:  Domenico Bernini’s Vita of St. Joseph of Copertino, both published last year. 


I recently interviewed Grosso for the October issue of The Searchlight, a publication of The Academy for Spiritual and Consciousness Studies, Inc. ( and now post it here. 

What prompted your interest in things paranormal and/or spiritual?

Well, the two are closely linked.  I think in my case your question is easily answered – in a word, experience.  I was a boy when my mother described what later I would call a “crisis apparition” of her brother at the time of his death.  I also recall a story about a ghost in the family lore who made herself known by nicking the odd handkerchief and folding it into an intricate, complex pattern. I witnessed the impact on my older brother of an unexplained fragrance he ultimately connected with Padre Pio.  Meanwhile, from my early years until the present, I have myself had direct experience of many kinds of paranormal experience—sporadically.  I have also made it my business to meet reseachers and experiencers, and read widely in the literature.  All this has helped to make me receptive to ideas that are treated as suspect in the mainstream, dominant materialist culture.

Would you mind summarizing your worldview now, especially with regard to survival and the meaning of life?  Has your worldview changed over the years? 

As for survival of consciousness and the meaning of life, I would say this.  There are rational reasons to support the belief in survival; most compelling is to have direct experience—as, for example, the near-death or mystical experience.  Despite what I know and have experienced, I agree with Plato that belief in an afterlife is kalos kundinos—a noble risk.  As for the meaning of life, that is purely a personal matter; each of us finds, follows, creates our own meaning: aims, ideals, virtues.  Each of us is forced to create our own ship of meaning from the raw materials of our experience. My worldview has evolved in the sense that philosophical and empirical events have led me to an interesting speculative conclusion: when we try to assemble all the supernormal powers into a coherent picture of human potential, it looks as though the next possible stage of human evolution is toward the appearance of a new human species that resembles ancient Greek gods and goddesses.

You said you have had some direct experiences of your own?  Would you mind summarizing the most significant ones and your conclusions regarding them?

In 1971, I (with two other people) witnessed a UFO from my sixth-floor window in Greenwich Village while we were listening to John Coltrane’s “The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.”  The UFO then flew to the dome of Our Lady of Pompei just down the block, and beamed at us—then took off and vanished over the Empire State Building.  In 1981, I had three detailed dreams in a row of President Reagan being shot—two weeks before he was shot (having shared the dreams in advance with my class).  In the early 1990s, in a group setting, I successfully conducted a levitation experiment with a two hundred pound ex-marine.  The joint effect of just these three incidents was enough to explode my established ideas about terrestrial life, time, and gravity—a good start, I’d say, for a metaphysical breakthrough.  The meaning of my life is in part based on trying to figure out what all my strange encounters signify. I am convinced almost all mainline views of reality, scientific or religious, are only partly correct – the big picture and what is all means remains for me an engaging mystery.  I think life would be horrible if we had it all figured out.

In your 1985 book, you wrote that people were at an all-time low as far as inner sources for coping with disaster and mortality.  Do you think any progress has been made over the past 33 years?  Why or why not?

I really don’t know how to answer that.  Those were grim times in 1985 with the nuclear sword of Damocles hanging over us, but they seem even grimmer now with a pathological liar leading the most powerful nation in history.  We may not be better equipped today with inner resources but I do believe that in moving toward social, climate, and nuclear catastrophe there may be an increase of psychic and spiritual awakenings, possibly en masse—the species mind awakening as does the individual when confronting death or even the heightened risk of death. 

When psychical research changed to parapsychology during the 1930s, researchers pretty much divorced themselves from mediumship and the whole idea of spirits.  Parapsychologists still seem to avoid those subjects.  Aren’t researchers just reinventing the wheel over and over again with such an approach?  To put it another way, how can you arrive at a spirit world without hypothesizing spirits in the first place?

In my view, the basic claims for the reality of psi have been established and we should go beyond just trying to prove the stuff is real. Let the research take us to the outermost limits of the possible, to survival after death and the immortality in life.  I believe we’ve barely begun to explore ways of emancipating human sensibility and agency.

Many parapsychologists accept the reality of psi, but remain skeptical or non-believers in survival. Do you think a career in parapsychology can be meaningful without some degree of acceptance of survival?  Or, to what end is a belief in psi along helping humankind?

Is there such a thing as a career in parapsychology?  I think it may one day happen that everybody will believe in survival, perhaps after a new technology makes us all clairvoyant seers.  Until that happens there will be differences of opinion on this and all matters of great importance.  Progress is to explore all sorts of ways to awaken and exploit our otherwise neglected psychic abilities—for health, for the creative arts, for community—and for the sheer adventure of exploration.  Parapsychology should not be confused with normal science; maybe that’s part of its appeal.

Some of your early writing had to do with apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary.  What do you make of such apparitions, especially those continuing to take place at Medjugorje?  (See my blog of October 3, `‘Levitations Explained”, 2016 in archives for a summary of the Medjugorje apparitions)

Curious you should mention Medjugorje, I’m half way through a new book on the subject by Daniel Maria Klimek.  Klimek points out that scientists studied the ecstatics during their actual encounters with the appearance of “Mary,” perhaps a first in the history of science.  The results, according to their data, prove that none of the visionaries showed any sign of pathology.  They also seemed focused on one external reality—what that reality is remains unknown.

Regarding these appearances, I find of great interest what seems like signs of the return of the goddess, an unconscious revolt against the repression of the feminine.  The UFO visitors I saw seemed to be dancing with Trane’s music and on to the Dome of Our Lady!  Uncanny connections that leave me clueless. 

Considering that the scientific studies of the ecstatics, or visionaries, suggest no fraud or deception on their part, do you think it is actually the Blessed Virgin Mary communicating with them over the past 37 years?

Whether the appearances of the alleged Virgin are of the actual mother of the historical Jesus, it’s impossible to know, and even Klimek states that is a matter of faith.  I myself don’t believe it.  If I was one of the visionaries I might.  In my review – accepted by the Journal of Religious Studies – but not yet submitted – I focus on the scientific discussions (ignore all the theology), and play up the critique of reductive materialism and the critique of constructionist theories of mysticism.  All that is solid stuff – and I’m happy to admit there are features of the phenomena that are genuine scientific mysteries. I think I’ve done the book justice without committing myself to anything I don’t believe in.

You said earlier that it would be horrible if we had it all figured out.  I take that to mean that “absolute certainty” of the survival of consciousness is not something we should have or even desire.  Would you mind elaborating on that?

This question is very interesting.  Let my try to answer.  First off, is absolute certainty of survival possible?  What comes to mind are near-death experiences; here, the absolute certainty results from the belief that one has died and consciously entered into a postmortem world.  But you don’t have to be near-death to have what might seem like self-certifying encounters with another world.  Being physically assaulted by a ghost in a haunted house, which I experienced, is a case in point.  No facile arguments can dislodge the certainty of my experience.  Direct experience of one or another sort is one way to achieve at least a robust certainty. But other routes also exist.  For example, by comparative study of all the relevant data, some might reasonably infer that survival was a fact of nature, and in a manner virtually certain. This would be so, theoretically.  Needless to say, the theory needs to be tested before wholly certified.

But now for your second question.  Is absolute certainty desirable? Doubt it.  Back to Plato’s comment that immortality was kalos kyndinos—a “noble risk.” It is not our highest concern.  Speaking for myself, I don’t crave absolute certainty about anything.  In all the big questions, of God, of love, of immortality – of how to live – there is always uncertainty, unpredictability – the risk intrinsic to just being.

Michael Tymn is the author of The Afterlife Revealed: What Happens After We Die, Resurrecting Leonora Piper: How Science Discovered the Afterlife, and Dead Men Talking: Afterlife Communication from World War I.

The Final Choice: Death or Transcendence by Michael Grosso is published by White Crow books.
*This book was originally published under the title, The Final Choice: Playing the Survival Game.

Next blog post:  December 10


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Profiling the Atheist

Posted on 12 November 2018, 9:35

During my lifetime of more than four-score years, I have met many people who call themselves atheists.  Usually, when they find out about my interest in afterlife studies and the fact that I have authored six books dealing with the subject, not to mention a hundred or more magazine and journal articles and more than 200 posts at this blog, they react with some surprise – often with a puzzled smirk, occasionally with a self-righteous sneer or a scoff, as if to say, “You don’t really believe in that stuff, do you?”

Not one to shy away from discussing the subject, I usually counter with a comment that I do believe in an afterlife, if not with absolute certainty at least with a conviction that meets the preponderance of evidence standard of our civil court system, and even goes well beyond that to meet the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard of our criminal justice system.  There is still about a 1.2 percent doubt there, so I say that I am a 98.8-percent believer and 1.2-percent doubter, meaning I am still a skeptic to some small degree. 

However, I point out that by the standards of most religions I might be considered an atheist.  That is to say that I doubt the existence of an anthropomorphic (humanlike) God, even though I call myself an unorthodox Christian and see Jesus as chairman of the board, or at least one of the directors, on the Other Side, assuming it is possible to give terrestrial names and imagery to celestial beings and matters. 

Like so many other words today, “atheist” is subject to different meanings and interpretations, but for lack of an accepted word that means a person does not believe in the God of orthodox religion but believes in an afterlife, I’ll stick with it in this post. 

“I believe in science,” is often the smug reply by the atheist, to which I respond that I also believe in science.  If the person pursues the science road, I sometimes stress that I am familiar with the scientific method and probably have more experience applying it than anybody he or she knows.  In fact, I might even claim the Guinness world record for applying it.  No, I never wore a lab coat outside of a couple of college classes, I explain, but I had more than 40 years experience in insurance claims and litigation management, which involved weighing evidence and making decisions in countless claims and law suits as to whether to settle a claim, and for how much, or proceed to court.  It’s referred to as courtroom science and not laboratory science, but courtroom science is more applicable to psychic phenomena than is laboratory science.

I must have applied the scientific method to at least 50,000 automobile accidents, products liability claims, industrial and commercial accidents, malpractice claims, construction accidents, and sundry other injury and damage claims over those 40-plus years.  If there was nothing else I learned from those many years, it is that the science involved in most disciplines is far from exact.  The plaintiff’s attorney would get a doctor, engineer, toxicologist, metallurgist, psychologist, whatever discipline was involved, to give his take on the evidence while the defense attorney would get an expert of equal standing to dispute the plaintiff’s expert.  If there can be such inexactness in medicine, engineering, psychology and other disciplines in which they fancy themselves scientists, why can’t there be inexactness in psychical research?  In response to this question, the atheist simply shrugs. 

If the atheist shows some interest, which is rare, I try to get across the point that the afterlife I have come to accept is not the humdrum heaven and horrific hell of orthodox religion, but involves a much more active lifestyle than that espoused by the churches.  But it has been my experience that most atheists are stuck in the muck and mire of scientific fundamentalism and will have none of it, just as much as evangelicals are stuck in religious fundamentalism. Over the years, I have developed a profile of the typical hard-core atheist. He or she may not have all of the characteristics indicated below, but here are 21 fairly common characteristics I have observed.

The atheist:
1) was likely brought up in a religious family, quite often in an evangelical family;

2) had problems with parental authority when young and was often rebellious;

3)  while in school, adopted science teachers and professors as substitute parent figures and quickly divorced religion in favor of the “intellectual” reductionist approach of the teacher or professor;

4) cannot now believe anything that can’t be replicated and validated by science;

5) believes that it is necessary to prove the existence of God before considering the evidence for an afterlife;

6) believes wars, famine, poverty, premature death, etc. are evidence that there is no God, as a benevolent God would not permit such things.  No God, no afterlife;

7) had an inferiority complex most of his or her life, but now sees his “intellectual” atheism grounded in science as making him/her better and smarter than all his/her friends who still suffer from religious superstitions;

8) has never really studied the evidence for the survival of consciousness but finds it convenient to parrot people like James “The Amazing” Randi and Michael Shermer by saying it is all fraudulent;

9)  assumes that celestial ways and means must meet terrestrial standards, thereby further assuming that science has it all figured out;

10)  attempts to put on a courageous front in his or her belief that life is nothing more than a march into an abyss of nothingness, but is really shaking in his or her boots, especially in his/her old age, when the courage turns to bitterness and despair, i.e., the pretend courage is really bravado;

11)  doesn’t fully grasp the difference between evidence and proof;

12) assumes that the afterlife is nothing more than angels floating around on clouds and strumming harps for eternity;

13)  fails to recognize that the evidence coming to us through psychical research and parapsychology is not always consistent with religious dogma and doctrine;

14)  thinks that television “ghost hunting” programs are what psychical research and parapsychology are all about;

15) accepts the debunker’s explanation that all psychical phenomena are the result of fraud, hallucination or self-delusion;

16)  believes everything he/she reads concerning paranormal phenomena at Wikipedia is the straight scoop;

17) assumes that psychics, if real, should be able to pick winning lottery numbers and be totally correct in everything he or she says;

18) stresses the “misses” in the testing of psychic phenomena, while ignoring the “hits,” even though they are far beyond chance;

19) assumes that if spirits exist, they should be all-powerful and able to more effectively communicate;

20) says we should “live for today” and not concern ourselves with what happens after death;

21) fancies him- or herself as a self-appointed guardian of truth in the war on superstition. 

Michael Tymn is the author of The Afterlife Revealed: What Happens After We Die, Resurrecting Leonora Piper: How Science Discovered the Afterlife, and Dead Men Talking: Afterlife Communication from World War I.

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