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I would just like to say that I find it really useful at times when contributors include links in some of their replies . It is very helpful when you have limited knowledge of a particular topic.
Best wishes
Pete
Pete Marley, Mon 10 Jun, 20:02
Bruce,
To reiterate what I said in my email to you, Swedenborg apparently didn’t have the ways and means to communicate in the 80 or so years after his death. According to the Imperator group, which communicated through Stainton Moses, it was Benjamin Franklin and Emanuel Swedenborg that figured out how to communicate with the earth realm by means of raps, taps, and table tilting. They apparently figured it out 20 or so years before the Fox sisters, but it didn’t catch on until the Fox sister. Swedenborg and Francis Bacon then communicated nearly a thousand pages of information (two volumes of the book) through the mediumship of Dr. George Dexter, as set forth in the 1853 book “Spiritualism,” authored by Judge John Edmonds and Dr. Dexter. Nearly everything that has come to us through spiraling mediumship since then was communicated by Swedenborg and Dexter in that book.
Swedenborg was said to be one of the 49 advanced spirits making up the Imperator group, which communicated through Stainton Moses. He also is said to have been one of the advanced spirits that Alan Kardec recorded.
The information coming through Cora Scott Richmond is said to have come from 12 advanced spirits making up a “group soul.” I don’t recall that their names on earth were ever given, but I suspect that Swedenborg was one of the 12.
I don’t recall the human names of Imperator, Rector, Mentor, and others in the Imperator group, but several of them were said to be from the early days of Christianity. One might ask why they waited for Stainton Moses to communicate. In addition to not having the mediumistic means, it may be that we just weren’t ready for it until then. Indications are that most people still aren’t ready for it.
Thanks for your participation.
Michael Tymn, Mon 10 Jun, 05:45
To Bruce’s question “why the interest in Cora?” my reply ran to a length more appropriate to a blog post than a reply here
https://chilstrom.space/2024/06/09/why-cora/ .
To Bruce’s second question “Does it take about one hundred years to get a suitable medium?” Time is not so much a barrier to contacting a medium as is affinity. I believe that Dr. Dexter may have the distinction as the first medium on record to have channeled Swedenborg, as conveyed in Judge Edmond’s classic book Spiritualism published in 1853. And, as to finding a medium for the purpose of “correction of their writings” Swedenborg said through Dexter, as though speaking of his incarnate self in the third person, “…I imagine you gleaned the idea from one Swedenborg, who wrote many foolish things on earth, which he is willing to rectify in spirit.”
David Chilstrom, Sun 9 Jun, 22:50
David,
Thank you for expanding my knowledge, as I had no knowledge of Cora. I visited your excellent website and especially liked “To get you started, here is the exceptional little booklet of a talk given by the spirit of Emmanuel Swedenborg. It’s one of Cora’s finest.”
I am a spiritualist medium and I look at the organisational side of the after life. I would think that it is not using a hit and miss as a strategy to communicate. Far too many smart people for such a random approach. I have thought that there are two or more reasons for such contact by those who were interested in life after death whilst embodied, such as Swedenborg.
(I was slightly connected with his church The New Church as I collected his works searching for insights. Swedenborg was a mining engineer while I was an electrical engineer both with seer abilities.)
There are two main reasons for famous spirits to establish contact. One is the continuation of their work and the other correction of their writings. Stainton Moses had a correction or two.
This is the part where I speculate. How do they find a suitable medium? Is there a database of mediums to contact or are the communication techniques the key?
My first question to you is why the interest in Cora? She started with automatic writing at 11(Summary of Cora L. V. Richmond’s Life) and then moved into trance. Spirits controls were “A. A. Ballou, son of the religious leader Adin Ballou and “Ouina, claimed to be the spirit of a Native American woman who died centuries earlier”.
So how does Swedenborg (died 1772) communicate in July 1878 Pathway of Angels (thanks for ebook)? Does it take about one hundred years to get a suitable medium?
I am amused that Michael gets called the spawn of Satan. What would someone who talks to the dead get called? Crazy is fairly standard. Cora started with slate writing at 11 from her mum’s sister. It was fortunate that her mother believed in her. ( https://chilstrom.space/about-cora-l-v-richmond/ ).
Thanks
Bruce
Bruce Williams, Sun 9 Jun, 03:52
David,
Many thanks for your efforts of the Cora (Scott) Richmond material. She is one of my favorites.
Mike
The short answer for Bret is that it’s a “thought world.”
Michael Tymn, Sat 8 Jun, 01:51
How could you play video games when you are dead?
How could you do anything when you are dead?
Obviously your not dead!
Bret Robinson, Fri 7 Jun, 07:28
Thanks, Amos. I know what you meant, but it was the lower back, not the knees, that made it difficult to stand up. All that said, my fingers are as fast as they were in high school when I hit 70 words per minute. I think I can hit at least 80 now. Then again, the computer key boards are much faster than those old Remington Rand typewriters.
Michael Tymn, Fri 7 Jun, 06:07
For the AI curious amongst you, I have put the (near complete) works of Cora Richmond into a single Google Notebook that can be queried using Google Gemini. In addition, I’ve taken the lectures from the book “The New Science and Spiritual Ethics” and split that into 3 notebooks (there is a current limit of 20 documents per notebook.)
Over time I plan to make all of her books that I have converted from PDF scans of the originals available in Epub format, but there are various issues to sort out regarding distribution, etc. In the meantime, I’ve created a web page that links to the Google notebooks and a couple of exceptional pamphlets in epub format that will give you a taste of Cora if you aren’t already familiar with her. https://chilstrom.space/cora-richmond-resources
David Chilstrom, Thu 6 Jun, 22:17
My previous comment is an example of typing in the dark, on a dirty keyboard, a low contrast monitor, without my glasses and having a mini panic attack all at the same time. - AOD
Amos Oliver Doyle, Thu 6 Jun, 15:12
Michael ,
The cost of a new knee in Hawaii is &17;,596 You are amazing Michael. - AOD
Amos Oliver Doyle, Thu 6 Jun, 13:23
A little paradox came to mind today. It’s not quite related to this blog but to the extent that all of life seems paradoxical I thought I would summarize it here.
Because the cost of painting my house was 5 times what it was seven years ago, I decided to paint it myself. It was a two-month project, interrupted by heavy rain at times, but I finally finished yesterday. My wife and friends kept warning me about climbing up the ladder to do the overhead eaves, which mentally was the most difficult part. Physically, however, the most difficult was doing the bottom portion of the house, as it often meant going to my knees and not being able to get back up again without something to hold onto. I think that’s a paradox. I saved about $12,000, but I hope that doesn’t make me a materialist.
Michael Tymn, Thu 6 Jun, 08:18
A skeptical friend sent me an email saying he has no toys to take with him. However, I reminded him that at our last lunch he was constantly checking his phone and that most certainly is his number one “toy.”
Michael Tymn, Wed 5 Jun, 02:33
Interesting thoughts, Michael. I don’t understand how some people can be uncurious about whether there is life after death. I have often heard skeptics respond that “there is no evidence” for life after death, and when I suggest there is plenty, they just haven’t looked, they scoff - yet show zero curiosity for exploring the issue. They have already made up their mind, so any evidence must be bogus.
On the subject of psychology… Back in the early days, it used to allow talk of the transcendent or supernatural. Jung, Maslow, Frankl, the transpersonal psychologists. Heck, one of the founders of psychology, William James, was big into spiritualism, as I know you’re aware. Unfortunately, all that got blotted out around the 80s or 90s. The profession was straining for scientific credibility, so that “woo woo” stuff had to go. I’m a retired psychologist myself, and I miss the old days. Things are somewhat more rigorous now, but a lot more dry, flat, and uninspiring.
About “taking your toys with you,” I heard one astral traveller say there were videogames in the afterlife. You could sit there and play videogames after you were dead. I play videogames occasionally myself, but I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would want to do that in the afterlife.
Oh, and regarding book sales, I wanted to mention that I heard recently that 90% of books sell under 1000 copies. This was behind-the-scenes information from Penguin, from a legal deposition in a court trial. The same source also said that 50% of books sell about a dozen copies or less - something I find a little hard to believe, but may be true.
Which is to say, your books are doing a lot better than average. It’s tough to make a dent in such a flooded market.
Thanks for your work. I have a few of those 12K copies on my own shelf.
Ed Anderson
Ed Anderson, Wed 5 Jun, 02:15
Anthony, see my blog of May 11, 2020 for anecdotal stories about spirits who don’t believe earthlings exist. There are others, but I can’t come up with the references right now.
Michael Tymn, Wed 5 Jun, 00:30
Thanks, Amos, for the comment. Maybe I’ll do a book on how the 10 S’s overcome the 10 D’s.
Also, thanks to Rick. As for how I can be friends with those who consider me an agent of Satan, I guess the answer has to do with the definition of friends. Most are more acquaintances who see me as misguided. But they are hopeful that I’ll eventually see the light.
Michael Tymn, Tue 4 Jun, 00:29
Congratulations to Michael Schmicker on his latest book, “What Comes Next? An Investigative Journalist Uncovers Quantum Physics’ Hidden Afterlife Hypothesis” Mike’s book clearly offers the best explanation of this complex subject for laymen, or is it laypersons, whatever.
Michael Tymn, Tue 4 Jun, 00:24
Great post! And I’m really fascinated by this:
“Believe it or not, there is even a little anecdotal evidence suggesting that there are ‘beings’ in the afterlife environment who don’t believe that humans or ‘earthlings’ exist.”
Can you say more about that?
Anthony, Mon 3 Jun, 21:11
I’ve come to the conclusion that absolute (100%) certainty on anything, including consciousness surviving death, is contraindicated for optimum mental health and that some doubt is necessary for us to deal with our challenges and progress in this lifetime.
This is an important issue. It has been said that, outside pure mathematics, there is no such thing as absolute proof. Science has made countless discoveries that appear to be undeniable facts: all the available evidence tends to support and nothing seems to cast doubt on them.
Then come new observations that shake up the previous “facts.” Not much more than a century ago distinguished physicists assured people that the smallest building blocks of matter were atoms, and simple they were, just protons and electrons. Needless to say the current picture is far more complex.
In trying to understand the mysteries that follow graduation from the earth plane, most of us sooner or later have to admit we can’t be sure of any indications. Even seemingly authentic sources like some spirit communications don’t always agree with one another on details.
So we can’t eliminate doubts. And still we feel frustrated or unsuccessful because of having them. Learning the truth about survival is so important! How dare God or the universe leave us partly ignorant despite all our best efforts?
Conviction does not mean absolute certainty, but it provides a confidence that borders on certainty and permits some peace of mind relative to life’s meaning while avoiding much or all of the existential angst that seems to be affecting my friend.
Aye. We can allow ourselves some anxiety-relieving conviction without the hoped-for definite knowledge.
At the other extreme, some of my religious friends consider me an agent of Satan.
If you mean that literally, how can you be friends with those who think you’re doing Satan’s work? And how can they be friends with you?
Rick Darby, Mon 3 Jun, 20:34
Mike T.
Good blog. I had to smile when I read your record -breaking, ten “s” word alliteration sentence. Before you end your writing career and head off into the afterlife, I want to see a blog with a round dozen 😄🍷👍
Mike S
Michael Schmicker, Mon 3 Jun, 19:51
Excellent post Michael. I think you are always better when you speak for yourself as you have in this post. Alliteration of the S-words makes writing fun as it should be. You’ve still got it, Michael! - AOD
Amos Oliver Doyle, Mon 3 Jun, 17:15
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