Thank you Michael and Bruce — I appreciate the follow-ups to my AI comment. Still pretty amazed by it all ….
Anthony, Wed 11 Jan, 22:24
Bruce Williams, Tue 10 Jan, 04:20
I worked with chatbots for many years. The idea was that if you were in a room and you were unable to tell a software driven bot from a real person, it was said to have passed the Turning Test (named after Alan Turning - Enigma machine fame ). My consultancy company was named after Alan his favourite location to think was a special parkbench)
The new conversational branch of intelligence is to continue the intelligence debate. Chatbots don’t handle lexical ambiguity well. The story goes that the first chatbot was Julia and the wife of the developer was thinking that he was cheating on the wife with these conversations. The learning of chatbots can also be corrupted with the conversation getting slanted. An airlines customer service chatbot was misdirected to explain to the customers that they would need to sit according to colour and race. The problem is the learning set for training the bot (short for robot). The new AI one is getting good at exam answers. It learns fast.
My students were trained with a chatbot that was AI - https://www.chatbots.org/chatbot/a.l.i.c.e/
Thanks for the information on ChatGPT. It sounds very interesting. I attempted to sign up, but they said I was verified but not authenticated. I got hung up there, but need to try again later.
Michael Tymn, Tue 3 Jan, 02:12
Yes, it’s a good day for singing a song
And it’s a good day for movin’ along
Yes, it’s a good day
How could anything be wrong?
A good day from morning ‘til night
And it’s a good day for shinin’ your shoes
And it’s a good day for losin’ the blues
Everything to gain and nothing to lose
A good day from morning ‘til night
I said to the sun, “Good mornin’, Sun
Rise and shine today
You know you gotta get goin’
If you’re gonna make a showin’
And you got the right of way”
‘Cause it’s a good day for payin’ your bills
And it’s a good day for curin’ your ills
So take a deep breath and throw away the pills
‘Cause it’s a good day from morning ‘til night.
Amos Oliver Doyle, Mon 2 Jan, 13:18
I wonder if anyone here has played around with ChatGPT, which is a chatbot that interacts with you as if it were human all through the tech of AI. You should Google ChatGPT and give it a try if you haven’t yet. I’ve been having fun with it, asking it to write me absurd stories. For example, I asked it to tell me a story about how a butcher knife became human while at the same time the butcher himself became a knife. The result was amusing.
So then I asked it: “Write me a story about life after death.” I fully expected the AI chatbot to simply say: I can’t do this because there is no life after death.” But instead, this is what came out (in about 30 seconds, mind you).
“There was once a man named Tom who died in a car accident. When he arrived in the afterlife, he was met by a kind and wise being who explained to him that death was simply a transition to a new form of existence. Tom was given the choice to be reincarnated into a new life on earth or to stay in the afterlife and continue his spiritual growth.
“Tom decided to stay in the afterlife and was guided to a beautiful, peaceful place where he could learn and explore. He spent countless hours studying ancient wisdom and exploring the mysteries of the universe. As he learned and grew, he began to feel a deep sense of purpose and fulfillment that he had never experienced in his previous life.
“Eventually, Tom decided that it was time for him to return to earth and share the wisdom he had gained with others. He was reincarnated and lived a long, fulfilling life, spreading joy and enlightenment wherever he went.
“When he died again, Tom returned to the afterlife with a sense of gratitude and peace, knowing that death was simply a doorway to a new and wonderful adventure.”
Well! I don’t know how these chatbots work — but that’s not a bad story for AI!
Happy New Year to you all!
Anthony, Sun 1 Jan, 21:25
Amos, I didn’t have an opportunity to view the link you recommended until yesterday. It offers a very meaningful message. Thank you and Happy New Year to you and to all.
Michael Tymn, Sun 1 Jan, 20:15
I recommend the “JeffMara” (Jeff Reynolds) podcast. Jeff is the most accepting, courteous, interviewer I have seen and heard. He allows his interviewees to speak and tell their story without interruption. At times I wonder how he can keep from laughing at or questioning some of the things he hears but Jeff is a good kind man who listens quietly and shows great acceptance and respect of the person he is interviewing whatever that person may say. Jeff is very prolific and has many podcasts. He has a variety of people on his podcasts which makes it very interesting to hear all of these differing experiences and beliefs. I think Jeff is an angel in disguise.
Good health and happiness for the new year, Bruce. - AOD
Amos Oliver Doyle, Fri 30 Dec, 15:16
Happy New Year everyone! Thanks to all of you—Michael especially—for helping create a place of refuge and sanity among the craziness in our world. Looking forward to more in 2023!
Anthony, Fri 30 Dec, 01:09
Bruce Williams, Fri 30 Dec, 00:46
I am watching A Father’s Journey Finding his son from JeffMara (first time I have looked at this podcaster). This shows that there are people finding their way much the same as in the past.
Traveling so my travel computer not as powerful as home - a Chromebook.
What reminds me of the important value of this search/blog is the loss of a loved one.
St Francis of Assisi says save the one first rather than chase the many.
Happy New Year
Happy New Year all!
Jon, Tue 27 Dec, 18:10
Perhaps at the end of 2022 it might be good to listen to a “JeffMara” podcast with Spiritual therapist Norma Edwards. This is one of the most outstanding interviews Jeff has done and surpasses all of the “teachings” of all of the revered esteemed communicants from the afterlife without exception. If you really want to learn how to live a purposeful life listen to Norma Edwards. I can’t recommend her enough!
Happy and Healthful New Year everyone. - AOD
Amos Oliver Doyle, Tue 27 Dec, 16:36
May the light of Christmas lighten op your heart and bring peace and warmth into your house and family. A merry Christmas to all of you.
Chris, Sat 24 Dec, 20:19
Thanks to all for the additional comments, including those on a book of quotes. I agree that it is best to provide biographical information on the person being quoted below the quote itself, as in this blog, rather than providing it at the end. However, for those being quoted two or three times, I’ll probably put a short bio in the appendix. I’m trying to figure out categories for the quotes. I’ll probably have six or seven categories.
Michael Tymn, Wed 21 Dec, 21:50
I have been interested in the attribution discussions as it is very practical advice. I used Scrivener to write a recent book and it uses the term attribution. I then took these references and made them endnotes with citations as usual for academic papers using Zotero. (Standard procedure)
I have written papers with footnotes for cybersecurity. Footnotes do not require the reader to go to the end of the article, merely look down.
Different techniques are used for different audiences. The problem is the flow and as quotes are self contained hence my thoughts are adjacent reference/attribution. Each new quote breaks the flow.
Don has an advertising background (I would expect his involvement in many high profile campaigns) with reach, frequency and impact the key thoughts for a marketing message. This has made me think about the various quotes/messages as each having these three attributes.
Those in the after life convey messages to their loved ones with high impact. The next level up have different styles of messages, more long term.
Their reach has been increased by publications such as White Eagle, Silver Birch.
To tie these two thoughts together, the collection of these quotes, each with their high impact nature can get an extended reach with a collection of classic quotes each linked back to the blog in which they appeared.
I appreciate quotes and one I like is “Only three things are certain: Death, taxes, and fear of both of them” Woody Allen. Merry Christmas
Bruce Williams, Wed 21 Dec, 01:59
Those are all terrific. If you are going to assemble them into a larger collection, please put the attribution immediately after the quote: name and source. As a historian and documentary editor, there is nothing more frustrating than a missing or buried attribution.
Bob Rosenberg, Tue 20 Dec, 19:15
On the quote attribution—my gut feel (as an old advertising guy) is that quotes without attribution (VISIBLE attribution) are essentially worthless. As many readers totally ignore “notes” if they’re placed at the back of the book as “end-notes,” I strongly recommend that you place your attributions up-front with the quotes. (In my own book, the notes were up-front on the same page as the reference…)
Don Porteous, Tue 20 Dec, 14:24
Many thanks for this, Michael, I always delight to read your blog. May you have a wonderful Christmas and new year!
C.M. Mayo, Tue 20 Dec, 04:14
Jane Katra, Tue 20 Dec, 03:34
My preference is that you acknowledge the quoted person’s name and the date, under his or her statement, as well as in an index. (You could give more details of situations and contexts in an Appendix.)
Bruce Williams, Tue 20 Dec, 00:57
Thank you for your collection of inspiring quotes. Many are familiar. Your blogs have been an inspiration to many and have produced many animated discussions. I have few of your books included in a library of similar books. At the end of such a productive year all I can hear are voices calling
Deep thanks to you, Michael, for all the insights that you share with us. I also agree with Don: This would be a great regular feature. I value your bringing to our attention your thoughts and conclusions, as well as those of the researchers who came before us.
Jane Katra, Mon 19 Dec, 22:58
Warm Blessings to you,
Amos, thank you for your interest in my “Afterlife Explorers” book. Unfortunately, it was the least popular of all my books and therefore it was decided not to have a book 2. “The Afterlife Revealed” was the most popular, with “Resurrecting Leonora Piper” in second place.
Michael Tymn, Mon 19 Dec, 22:02
Gems all. Great for forwarding to very select friends who wonder about what we are doing. Thanks.
Stafford, Mon 19 Dec, 21:43
Thanks, Don. I am considering a book of quotes, maybe 500 or more. I’m debating on whether to ID the person being quoted below the quote or to have that info all in an appendix. What do you think? Keep in mind that some will be quoted more than once.
Michael Tymn, Mon 19 Dec, 21:09
Mike thanks for taking the time to do this
Karen E Herrick, Mon 19 Dec, 20:25
I really appreciate it
Blessings Karen & Merry Christmas !!!
Thank you, Michael for a year of 24 informative thought-provoking blog articles. I have enjoyed every one of them. Happy holidays and good health for the coming year.
(I am reading volume 1 of “The Afterlife Explorers: The Pioneers of Psychical Research” which you published in 2011. Are there volumes 2, 3 or 4 as you intended?) -AOD
Amos Oliver Doyle, Mon 19 Dec, 19:44
Thanks for all your blogs this year, Michael. Yet again you have cast enlightenment around for anyone who cares to perceive it. I wish you a happy Christmas and New Year and look forward to more of your blogs in 2023.
Keith P in England, Mon 19 Dec, 19:26
A nicely thoughtful compendium. You should make this (to the extent that we’re all still around) a regular feature…
Don Porteous, Mon 19 Dec, 13:38
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